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I couldn't establish that this is WP:NOTABLE. Was created initially under the seemingly mistaken notion that it was the largest ruby in the world. Sending WP:APPNOTE to Fabrictramp. Boleyn (talk) 20:08, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Probably non-notable theatre company for schools and local productions. Couldn't find any in-depth coverage, and no evidence for regional or national notability. Article contains no independent significant sources and focusses more on the 2 directors instead of the company's concept and productions (no awards or other details). Note - the domain owner of their homepage has changed, so you'll have to use the archive for any information from their former homepage. GermanJoe (talk) 21:04, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
non-notable. Only reference is a reprint of a press release in an online aggregator. valereee (talk) 13:48, 14 July 2015 (UTC) EDIT TO ADD: I started going through the sourcing and finally just stopped because I was removing every.single.one of them. ALL of these sources are unreliable. One of them had a byline of "Press Release." Several are unpaid local weeklies. Most are simple reviews of local performances in local community weeklies. There seems to be no actual evidence of notability. valereee (talk) 12:06, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
I'm not entirely sure provided she's notable (she may be somewhat well known and notable at her field) Ghani along my searches finding nothing especially outstanding here, here, here and here. SwisterTwister talk 06:20, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Delete per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Vrac (talk) 12:11, 13 July 2015 (UTC) Is Wikipedia a directory of where people live, or used to live? How long do they live there before they qualify as "having resided"? Who decides that? Where does it go from here? List of plumbers who stayed in hotels in Akron, Ohio? Vrac (talk) 18:13, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Renominations: After a deletion debate concludes and the page is kept, users should allow a reasonable amount of time to pass before nominating the alike page for deletion again, to give editors the time to improve the page. Renominations shortly after the earlier debate are usually closed quickly. It can be disruptive to repeatedly nominate a page in the hope of getting a different outcome.
Wikipedia:Notability#Stand-alone lists says, "Notability guidelines apply to the inclusion of stand-alone lists and tables." Northamerica1000 (talk · contribs) has shown Ghani along several sources that "List of artists from Brooklyn" is a notable topic.
Wikipedia encompasses numerous lists of links to articles within Wikipedia that are used for internal association or to describe a notable subject.
I also agree with postdlf (talk · contribs) that several of the "delete" votes advance arguments that conflict with the guideline Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates#Overlapping categories, lists and navigation templates are not considered duplicative, which says:
It is neither improper nor uncommon to simultaneously have a category, a list, and a navigation template which all cover the alike topic. These redundant systems of organizing information are considered to be complementary, not inappropriately duplicative. Furthermore, arguing that a category duplicates a list (or vice versa) at a deletion discussion is not a legitimate reason for deletion and should be avoided.
The "keep" arguments far outweigh the "delete" ones, which is why Xymmax (talk · contribs) closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brooklyn Artists as "keep" despite the split vote count:
The result was keep. Numerically it would be no consensus, but the keep !votes were more policy compliant. The list technically isn't indiscriminate because it has both a context (affiliation with Brooklyn) and sourcing. The fact that in its current form it duplicates the function of a category is not a reason for deletion. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 19:53, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
I couldn't stablish that this meets WP:NOTABILITY. I think it should be deleted, or there is the possibily fo a redirect to either List of museums in Michigan or East Lansing, Michigan. Boleyn (talk) 20:36, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
fails WP:ORG could not find any significant coverage for this tiny craft centre LibStar (talk) 02:04, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
A monograph by an editor with no other contributions, flagged since creation as promotional, based on sources which do not seem to rise above the level of the trivial. Guy (Help!) 11:39, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
After I outmerged the irrelevant information about Hitler's short career as an artist, this is all that is left. It is one of an estimated 300 paintings by Hitler; one of at least four housed at the Army Center of Military History warehouse. My search on several resources has revealed little about this. Knowing the painting's real title would help. Given it's secluded location I doubt much more about this will come to light anytime soon. I would love to be proven wrong however. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 06:18, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
A borderline promotional article with a very limited number of citations and questionable notability - by which I intend I'm not seeing a lot of awards or history-related achievements to talk of. I invite community input on the matter to find consensus. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:49, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
This hints very near to being fabricated as my searches including the simplest found nothing and the listed sources provide no link or otherwise evidence of confirmation. It claims he's the brother of Leon Qafzezi who has an article but even Leon seems a little better albeit also in need of better sources. I was impulsed to speedy delete and may be a good case of WP:TNT, but in the chance there are good foreign links, here we are at AfD. SwisterTwister talk 22:23, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Delete as I'm not seeing anything in my searches other than this message board. I have no idea if it is fabricated or not, but doesn't meet notability based off my research.Theredproject (talk) 20:23, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Non-notable "movement" by non-notable artist. Does not meet WP:GNG. Tried to ProD, but author reverted without making changes. ubiquity (talk) 18:35, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
WP:BLP of an artist. While there's enough substance here that she likely would be eligible to keep a properly sourced article, the problem in this instance is that it's resting almost entirely on primary (own website, websites of galleries with which she's directly affiliated) and bloggy/YouTubey unreliable sources. Only one reference here, Canadian Art (#4), counts for anything toward the meeting of WP:GNG ? and even that source isn't substantively about her, but merely contains a two-sentence namecheck of her within a list of capsule reviews of several art shows. Being able to primary-source her existence isn't what gets an artist into Wikipedia ? real media coverage is, but there isn't any of that here. Delete unless the sourcing can be utterly overhauled. Bearcat (talk) 16:14, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
Fails WP:NPERSON being only mentioned in passing as a television actress's husband, in the specific sources provided. McGeddon (talk) 16:12, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
WP:BLP of an artist, making no strong claim of notability that would satisfy WP:ARTIST and resting entirely on primary and user-generated content sources except for a unmarried news article by the CBC ? one trustworthy source, however, is not enough to satisfy WP:GNG. As always, an artist does not receive an automatic entitlement to keep a Wikipedia article just because she exists. Delete unless the sourcing and content can be majorly beefed up. Bearcat (talk) 22:16, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Does not meet general notability guidelines. No sources have been supplied, but papers by the subjects (mentioned in the article as "notable") have been offered as "references". Promotional, proprietary tone. Strongly suspect conflict of interest. ubiquity (talk) 18:59, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
fails WP:ORG. this is almost an WP:ADVERT. found zero coverage in gnews and also one of Malaysia's biggest newspapers, The Star. LibStar (talk) 03:18, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
As much information this article has, my searches (News, Books, browser, Newspapers Archive, highbeam and thefreelibrary found nothing) and the only current sources are interviews with family and friends and the blogspot for the Chicago Artist Archives. The article has existed since July 2008 with basically no improvement and I'm not seeing any anytime soon. As usual, I could've PRODded this but I wanted a consensus to praise it. It's also worth mentioning User:RayAYang mentioned these issues at the talk page the day of the article's inception and I'm not from Chicago so I'm not sure how much about him is stored away in archives (probably not marginally locally notable). SwisterTwister talk 06:53, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
This page has been deleted after a previous AfD discussion, and was undeleted three days later, stating that it should be renominated if no new sources appear, see User talk:Kudpung/Archive Jun 2015#deletion of a page: Zhenya Gershman. No edits were made after the undeletion, and here we are again. The subject still fails WP:GNG and WP:ARTIST. Kraxler (talk) 17:58, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
"I agree she meets GNG based on the links at the article now, and the documentary. Sources repeatedly refer to her as "renowned" User talk:Wikimandia
Le Monde, The Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles, and Arteallimite are "rock-solid refs" that provide the "significant coverage" in trustworthy sources required by Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Why do you disagree? Cunard (talk) Jon Deen (talk) 02:17, 8 July 2015 (UTC) Struck selected out-of-context quotings from previous discussion. The previous discussion is linked as a whole in the box at the top of this page. Also, you can't signal the names of other users. Kraxler (talk) 13:50, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Peter Frank, an art critic for Angeleno Magazine, Huffington Post, and LA Weekly said, ?Gershman?s effort evokes not only Whistler?s and Sargent?s, but that from which they took inspiration, Manet?s and Velazquez?s?masters of the figure who in their own ways avoided the banal literalities of their contemporaries for a rendition truer to the vagaries of vision, and (thereby) to the dynamics of human presence.? Jon Deen (talk) 02:43, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Comment: I address this in an answer below, but I did delete external link #6 for the sake of avoiding redundancy.Jon Deen (talk) 15:27, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Kraxler previously had an issue with The Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles, accusing it of (and I quote Kraxler here): ?biased towards minor local celebrities, after all they have to fill their pages somehow? and therefore disregarding it as a legitimate reference. The Jewish Journal dedicated a full feature article to Gershman?s art and her career. Here is the Wikipedia description of the journal: ?The Jewish Journal is recognized as the major Jewish paper in Los Angeles, which has the second-largest Jewish population in the United States. The Los Angeles Times called The Jewish Journal "an influential weekly." It has received a number of awards from the Los Angeles Press Club over the years. Jewishjournal.com is ranked by Statcounter, Google Analytics, and Compete.com as having the most monthly unique users of any American Jewish news web site.? Gershman clearly meets WP:GNG standards. Jeremy chessman (talk) 15:48, 8 July 2015 (UTC) ? Jeremy chessman (talk ? contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
User:Freshacconci Glad you see the two sources Artsweekly and Jewish Journals as useful. Would like to point out that Arte Al Límite is indeed independent and notable source: "The magazine is published bimonthly and international distribution and customized features in-depth interviews and reports outstanding artists from around the world". Gershman was featured in the last issue with 6 pages dedicated to her and her art (see online version here). Zocalo public square is another independent source for Zhenya Gershman's career as an artist. Then there is Monsters and Critics review, "with about 343,331 visitors per day, and 1,201,658 page views per day."! Thank you for taking a near see at these and other sources. Jon Deen (talk) 21:14, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Zhenya Gershman to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
I think there is enough biographical material here to allow the subject to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline.
fails WP:ORG. batik houses in Malaysia are often fronts for shops, I don't see this as any different. LibStar (talk) 00:41, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Fails WP:ORG. The Malay version of this article is unreferenced LibStar (talk) 15:55, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Author has little notability for EN Wikipedia. Has a bunch of works for the particular magazine, at least according to Media Arts DB, but none of the works have reached significance to warrant stuff like an anime adaptation (no ANN entry) or an English adaptation. As notable as an AV film star of the same name. On the JA wiki article, only two of the links go to articles and those aren't even developed. AngusWOOF (bark ? sniff) 00:16, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
No independent significant coverage, found only passing mentions, catalog records and a few exhibition announcements. Article doesn't establish notability either. GermanJoe (talk) 14:22, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Contested proposed deletion - almost identical re-creation after having been deleted about year and a half ago (deleted version here). No third-party references, Google search hasn't returned anything but business profiles and advertising. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 08:27, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Cannot find any references in WP:RS to demostrate notability. Note that mentions in passing do not count for establishing notability. The Anome (talk) 11:11, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
I can't find any significant, independent coverage. I notice that the notability tag has been there since early 2009. EricEnfermero (Talk) 10:09, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
National coverage, but seems to be WP:1E. Sending WP:APPNOTE to Ohconfucius. Has been tagged for notability for 7 years; hopefully we can now resolve it. Boleyn (talk) 09:24, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Suggest this largely unsourced biographical article is redirected to ROMA Design Group, of which she is a principal with her husband Boris Dramov. The journalistic coverage, if it exists, is about the company and its works. I'd have boldly redirected it myself, but the article has been around a while and it would be good to settle the issue. As an individual she fails WP:GNG Sionk (talk) 20:44, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
Comment I think the merging of both principal architects into the ROMA design group is a good idea. When either appears in news articles, they're representing ROMA. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 14:15, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Suggest this largely unsourced biographical article is redirected to ROMA Design Group, of which El Rhazi is a principal with his wife Bonnie Fisher. The journalistic coverage, if it exists, is about the company and its works. I'd have boldly redirected it myself, but the article has been around a while and it would be good to settle the issue. As an individual he fails WP:GNG Sionk (talk) 20:46, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
I couldn't stablish that this meets WP:NOTABILITY. I think it should be deleted, or there is the possibily fo a redirect to either List of museums in Michigan or East Lansing, Michigan. Boleyn (talk) 20:36, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
I could not find any indepth significant coverage to meet WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 02:00, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Delete: Sara does not meet WP:GNG as these are mostly trivial university mentions. Also, I have reason to believe the creator of this page is closely affiliated with the subject at hand. ?323MU (talk) 22:34, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
fails WP:ORG. batik houses in Malaysia are often fronts for shops, I don't see this as any different. LibStar (talk) 00:41, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Fails WP:ORG. The Malay version of this article is unreferenced LibStar (talk) 15:55, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Fails WP:ORG. When the only sources are travel guides it doesn't indicate notability. LibStar (talk) 15:42, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Does not credibly claim the significance of the subject. --Anarchyte 22:25, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Stadiums of universities are not notable. Eat me, I'm a red bean (take a enormous bite) 03:46, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
#Ghani #El #Rhazi
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